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Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry
Posted: Mar 7, 2008 3:08 AM

If you believe the buzz, Atom is so good that it will displace ARM cores as king of the mobile world...[ View complete article ]


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Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry

Post time:  Mar 7, 2008 3:08 AM
 

Author:ramish

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If you believe the buzz, Atom is so good that it will displace ARM cores as king of the mobile world. Unfortunately, the buzz was extremely confused.
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(1) Reply:Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry Post time:  Mar 7, 2008 3:08 AM
 

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I am supprised no Asian company is making an effort to develop embedded cores to compete against ARM.
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Post time:  Mar 9, 2008 0:08 AM
 

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The investment would be huge with over 5 billions phones shipped based on ARM cores, a long legacy of software and tools usage and large ecosystem of developers and partners. It isn't as simple as developing a core; lots of people do that.
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(3) Reply:Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry Post time:  Mar 9, 2008 0:12 AM
 

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One key point that no one seems to realize is that the power numbers Intel quotes are just for Atom which is only the CPU. The ARM-based devices are single, integrated devicees that include the video, graphics, memory controller and peripherals. The Intel solution requires two chips and 4x the area against single-chip ARM-based solutions such as TI OMAP3. If you look at the system solution, the Intel Centrino Atom platform with memory and power management is 8x bigger and 4x the power of ARM-based solutions. They are not even close to being competitive in mobile devices with this generation.
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(4) Reply:Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry Post time:  Mar 11, 2008 1:59 PM
 

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I need Atom platform to design sevenLaptop. It vill have sevenOS. In sevenOS : A)sevenFull byte voice symbols vill be used instead of ASCII. e)sevenHalf bytes vill be used instead of Decimal/BCD P)sevenCheckboks and sevenPen vill be used instead of GUI and mouse. 6)It vill have sevenTCL as scripting language instead of TCL/Tk or vish. http://sevenfon.googlepages.com
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(5) Reply:Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry Post time:  Apr 16, 2008 5:00 PM
 

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Yes INDEED: why are not any Asian companies developing cores to compete against ARM? This is amazing: surely even a group of individuals can start desigining these cores? Of course they can: get on with it!
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(6) Reply:Analysis: The real scoop on Atom-ARM rivalry Post time:  Aug 21, 2009 10:04 PM
 

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Intel will win on cost. Intel hasn't announced pricing, but it is obvious that Atom will cost far more than ARM-based chips. An ARM Cortex-A8 occupies less than 3mm x 3mm using a 65nm process. Atom weighs in at 25mm x 25mm using a 45nm process. To be fair to Atom, most of its area is occupied by cache. My analysis suggests that the Atom core itself is about 9mm x 9mm, or three times bigger the size of Cortex-A8. With such a huge area disadvantage, it's hard to see how Intel will win on cost I hope it helps ARM Cortex A8 is 3mmX3mm = 9 sqmm Intel Atom Core (your analysis) is 9mmX9mm = 81sqmm This is 9 times difference in area so the Cortex A8 core is 9 times smaller than Intel Atom.
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